Wow I got fed some wrong info.THANKS!
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Has anyone heard of "Secret Disfellowshipping" by Jehovah's Witnesses? Menlo Park Ca. Congregation. Update.
by Balaamsass inno doubt everyone has been following the juan viejo postings regarding the watchtower kingdom hall "grab" on jwn for the last couple of years.
called the mrs and me to say "wow- you have to google this" we did...came here to jwn ...became members..and the rest is history.. in the last nine months i have been calling and emailing contacts in the silicon valley for verification on the societies theft and forced sale of the menlo park kingdom hall (near the new facebook heaquarters) because the story seemed...a little far fetched.
every reliable contact i made has confirmed what juan reported.
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Has anyone heard of "Secret Disfellowshipping" by Jehovah's Witnesses? Menlo Park Ca. Congregation. Update.
by Balaamsass inno doubt everyone has been following the juan viejo postings regarding the watchtower kingdom hall "grab" on jwn for the last couple of years.
called the mrs and me to say "wow- you have to google this" we did...came here to jwn ...became members..and the rest is history.. in the last nine months i have been calling and emailing contacts in the silicon valley for verification on the societies theft and forced sale of the menlo park kingdom hall (near the new facebook heaquarters) because the story seemed...a little far fetched.
every reliable contact i made has confirmed what juan reported.
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The doer of that deed would of been Merton Campbell, he was the northern Cailf. Service Desk.
Randall Waters had a post on this site on Merton Campbell. it centered on the Red Bluff Calif. sodomize r Henderson, who it took 5 trips across Campbell's desk before he was permanently removed. There was a lady Ft Worth Tx. attorney who was in local paper [forget he name] that got the court win. I talked with her about another molestation case. Evidently that post got removed from this site.
There was a swindler that came to Redding Ca. in the mid 1980's, a Ray Dale [he had a 20+ year career defrauding widows and seniors, made possible by church policy that prevented brothers from taking brothers to court on the pain of disfellowshipping and loss of family thru shunning. The pinnacle of Dale's swindles was a $4,250,000 unregistered securities fraud that was taken to Civil Court by Calif. Dept. of Corroborations in 1990 court case #109555. Also involved was a JW Patent Attorney L. Schappert. Campbell was so incompetent that he assigned Ray Dale to investigate Ray Dale! Had he taken the investigation out of the congregation that the fraud was centered in and had assembled a committee outside elders than there would of been a chance that the Service Desk would of seen that Redding area was in need of some professional help in dealing with a REAL criminal!
When the the Shasta County DA"S office, the SEC and the Calif. Dept. of Corporations were investigating Ray Dale the South Redding elders refused on 3 occasions refused to forward letters of criminal investigations to Merton Campbell allowing him to rectify his mistake. Reason being they were terrified of being bitten by a "wolf" Acts 20:28-30! Evidently Campbell did not like me calling him "a servant on a horse" Eccl.10: 7 after that big of a fuck up. After that I was on Campbell's ass like a dirty diaper.
In 2013 when the revised RNWT was released with the Lev.5:1 revision Barbara Anderson was interested in taking on the project as the "new light" of that revision was cloaked in silence. The essay "Flawed Decrees Conceal Criminals" was the finished product. In the phone conversation when the Red Bluff sodomizer Henderson came up Barbara asked me if per chance I was the man in northern Calif. who wrote the most offensive letters to Bethel of anyone in the USA [she had a Bethel friend who entered all letters of hate into a data base] I said that was "a bingo". But Barbara is not going to back up anything I say as that would reveal someone other than herself owner the intellectual property understanding the deception of Lev.5:1 in the 1987 Wt. article "A Time to Speak When?" that was a highly thought deception to create a "hunting license" to ferret out apostates in the year 1987.
Merton Campbell scripted out my disfellowshippment. Not only that he instructed the Appeals Committee presiding elder to conceal court case #149893 where the swindler was defrauding another widow out of $100,000 court case #149893. That case ended in March 2004, my wife left in May 2004. Had that Bastard Campbell been anywhere competent I would still have a family today! [Again my apology of making a fool of myself a month ago, evidently I got wrong information you were in Redding area and Joe Moore the presiding elder who concealed court case #149893 also too was a long time Bethelite during your era and his wife is 3rd generation}.
In 2007 I hired a privet investigator who uncovered court case #149893. I taped it to the church doors [just like Martin Luther] on 12-26-2007. And on 12-31-2007 the elder who refused to forward three letters of criminal investigation to Merton Campbell had a heart attack. The last thing he ever saw the was the face of my #5 son who was on the fire truck and put the oxygen mask on him and did CPR. Turns out that elder tried to get my son to suck his penis when he was a kid. I am the Apostate refereed to in the 2013 assembly talk "Human Apostates" who wrote letters to publishers homes, with the motive of attacking the consciences of cowards who were terrified of Ray Dales "wolf pack" Acts 20:28-30.
To make it a small world my cousin screwed that Bay Area elder you refereed to out of about $20,000.
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Waiting On Jehovah First Mentioned?
by Ron.W. inyes, waiting on jehovah for him to handle a problem/ doctrine etc.. when did the jw's first start saying that?
they've been saying it as long as i can remember.. what scriptures do they trot out to back that teaching up?
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THANKS!
What people don't know is that; obedience to the organization, invention of new enemy "the apostate", the "shunning policy", the deception of Lev.5:1 to fabricate a hunting license to ferret out apostates, was all a package deal.
It was a well thought out "snare" to hold families hostage. It was a true conspiracy in 1983, as the "obedience mantra began in 1984.
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Waiting On Jehovah First Mentioned?
by Ron.W. inyes, waiting on jehovah for him to handle a problem/ doctrine etc.. when did the jw's first start saying that?
they've been saying it as long as i can remember.. what scriptures do they trot out to back that teaching up?
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That became mainstream in the late 1980's. It along with "god will handle it" when elders didn't want or they were not able to judicially handle real crime.
It was part of a package deal that was brought into being in 1984 when the church instituted the "obedience to the organization mantra". This in direct response to 1975. The years 1980-83 were pivotal as the church was a ship without a rudder, there was no one with the fertile mind of Fred Franz to concoct a narrative that could keep Matt. 24:34 going. Prior to 1984 there was no "apostate" there was no "shunning. Prior to 1984 the church did not derive their cash flow from Kingdom Hall loan interest payments. Prior to 1984 the church did not steal ownership of Kingdom Hall by stating it was dedicated to Jehovah.
The Master delayed in 1975"! The "slave" changed Matt.24: 48-51.
The phrases "wait on god", "god will handle it" are all a part of a pyramid management style where the top tier are unable to feed and care for their flock in that they are not inspired of higher thinking. Unable to concoct a narrative of Matt. 24: 34 to bridge 1975 the church rather than confess they were FOS on their prophesying. In about 1983 conspired to shut down minds and take the minds into captivity by applying the words of Dr. Joseph Goebbels "people will believe a lie if said loud and frequent"! Obey the Organization!
I watched that happen. I watched how a swindler controlled a whole a whole city because the elders were terrified of "wolves" Acts 20: 28-30. In 1989 I tried to get my sons to see the road the church was taking the people, to no avail.
To understand the conspiracy to shut down minds and take them into captivity is to understand a package deal was brought into being in about 1984. That the invention of a "new" enemy "the apostate" [or Jew in Goebbels case], invent the policy of "shunning" to isolate the enemy from speaking out against "a wicked slave". These did not exist prior to 1984.
The key to open that revelation is the 1987 Sept.1 Wt article "A Time to Speak when?" paragraph 6,7 when set next to the 2013 RNWT revision of Lev.5:1. This article was a finely crafted deception to fabricate a hunting license to ferret out apostates. This article has nothing to do with revealing medical confidentiality, it has everything to do with bringing into being a Gestapo informant policy for the purpose of ferreting out apostates! The only way to come to that understanding is to realize that; obedience to organization mantra, the new enemy the "apostate", the "shunning" and the Gestapo informant policy were ALL a package deal, they All came into being at the same time!
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Associated Press. "JW's Time Keepers No More
by Bill Covert inassociated press article.
11-22-23 peter smith.. "timekeepers no more rank-and-file jehovah's witnesses say goodbye to tracking proselytizing hours".
made big time news..
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RON POMO
Read your piece about Robert Hendricks. In about 1995 he told me " it is a honor and privilege to suffer falsely for the sake of the WTB&TS for a period of 15 years, as that being the length of the circumcision issue in Acts". I am about at the 34 year mark now.
This had to do with a San Diego swindler and a $4,250,000 unregistered securities swindle here in Redding Ca. and how it connected 1987 Wt. article. Shortly after that visit the only worldly party to the swindle was convicted of embezzlement. Elmer Woodley came to town could not be bothered to hear the issue but wanted to thank me for putting a engine in his Suburban 16 years earlier. He didn't like my reply. When at Bethel he checked on me with legal dept [they said they were not afraid of me as statute of limitation expired] then the Service Dept. and Merton Campbell, Campbell lied to Woodley that the Redding Fire arson investigator who wrote a letter dealing with the court case "recanted his letter". Elmer had me meet with him and three elders, I backed them down with a court case and the Watchtower article from 1987 "A Time To Speak When?". They did not DF me, his parting words were "to bad I won't be in the Kingdom" I said "there is always a place for someone who stands up for widows against swindlers" then walked out.
And the story goes on.
But it is interesting the commonality that certain traveling men create so many problems.
Big thanks for getting this in the news!
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Associated Press. "JW's Time Keepers No More
by Bill Covert inassociated press article.
11-22-23 peter smith.. "timekeepers no more rank-and-file jehovah's witnesses say goodbye to tracking proselytizing hours".
made big time news..
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Associated Press article. 11-22-23 Peter Smith.
"Timekeepers no more rank-and-file Jehovah's Witnesses say goodbye to tracking proselytizing hours"
Made big time news.
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Three new lawsuits against Watchtower filed under NY Child Victims Act (CVA) this October, bringing number of CVA cases up to six
by Corney innew cases:.
diaz case, filed on 10/21/2020 by zalkin law firm - two plaintiffs abused (here and hereinafter - allegedly) by two ministerial servants in 1970s.. iglesias case, filed on 10/19/2020 by eisenberg & baum, llp against various nyc and wt entities - abused by an "elder john doe" and "[travelling] overseer john" in 1970s and 1980s.. aldridge case, filed 10/06/2020 by zalkin law firm - abused by a congregation elder in 1970s.. older cases:.
tarry case (no 1 and no 2), filed on 09/17/2019 and 07/23/2020 by parker waichman llp - abused by a publisher in 1984. very weak case.
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Bill Covert
As I understand December brings to an end of California's window of time to file molestation cases. I have been waiting to see how many cases will be filed.
I got phone calls from both the US Postal Inspector and local police dept. about my letter writing campaign [which was mentioned in the 2013 summer convention talk "Human Apostates"] in June when the church had me taken to court for failure to obey court orders in alimony payments. They were able to see I was not threatening terror attacks but was just fucking with the local elders minds as to how Lev.5:1 related to a swindler who had a 20 something career of defrauding widows and seniors in the JW church.
So when the numbers of molestation's gets media release it will be 'show time' as to whether my mind fucking will be able to crack the minds of Redding Ca. JW's. Over 30 years invested in this event.
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Has the Watchtower Faithful Slave become the Evil Slave?
by Vanderhoven7 inwhat evidence suggests to you that the wt f&ds is actually more like the es of matthew 24?.
45¶who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?.
46blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.. .
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Mid 1980's until it was shut down when the loans were forced to be forgiven.
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Has the Watchtower Faithful Slave become the Evil Slave?
by Vanderhoven7 inwhat evidence suggests to you that the wt f&ds is actually more like the es of matthew 24?.
45¶who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?.
46blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.. .
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Matt. 24:34 imploded in 1975.
The years of 1980-83 were a ship with out a rudder. No new light, no replacement for the fertile mind of F. Franz to come up "types and anti types'. The church had three choices: 1 admit they were FOS. 2, come up with a narrative that could make Matt. 24: 34 relevant, 3 shut down the minds by instituting 'absolute obedience to church authority'.
In 1984 there came into being a true "snare and racket"
The racket was the Kingdom Hall loans. The interest on the loans created cash flow, to where remodels were remodeled, cash flow. The KH was then dedicated to "Jehovah" aka the WTB&TS. To where they had a world wide real estate portfolio, with the only expense being the paper the contracts were written on. Evidently this was illegal as it was shut down by somebody bigger than the church.
The "snare" was introduced in 1984 with the "obedience to the organization mantra. In this package a brand new enemy was introduced the APOSTATE. There was absolute shunning introduced to enforce the authority. In 1987 there was the WT. Sept. 1 article "A Time to speak When?" this was a masterful crafted piece of deception to create a hunting license to ferret out apostates.
That was the son of God you quoted. This is how that transition was accomplished.
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Punishment and control: the secret handbook that rules a religion
by Tahoe inthis article is behind a paywall: https://www.smh.com.au/national/punishment-and-control-the-secret-handbook-that-rules-a-religion-20231026-p5ef9z.html.
a herald investigation has uncovered disturbing practices within the jehovah’s witness church, including the systems for discipline, punishment and control in a secret rule book for church “elders”.. australian children in the jehovah’s witnesses religion are being trained to avoid life-saving blood transfusions and parents are being coached to thwart court processes that may prevent their children from dying, internal church documents reveal.. an investigation following an inquest into the death of jehovah’s witness heather winchester, who died in newcastle after refusing a blood transfusion, has uncovered disturbing practices within the australian church, including the systems for discipline, punishment and control contained in the secret rule book for church “elders”.. the church’s blood transfusion ban forces people to choose between risking death by refusing treatment or being “shunned” – cut off from family and friends under the church’s strict rules – according to 16 former and current members of the church interviewed and the testimony of many others.. .
some of them believe it has cost hundreds of lives in australia.. “i think it’s truly dangerous for children, who are not old enough to vote or drive, to be coached about how to convince a judge or doctors about a decision that is potentially life-threatening,” said fleur hawes, 32, a solicitor who escaped the religion and is speaking out for the first time.. in public, the jehovah’s witnesses’ leadership downplays the impacts of its ban on blood transfusions, which are based on interpretations of bible passages that say christians should not eat blood.. .
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That article "A Time to Speak When?" is a deception in a deception. The Lev.5:1 verse was a deception. Read Barbara Anderson's essay Flawed Decrees Conceal Criminals". I taught her what the true meaning was in 2013 in response to the RNWT revision of Lev.5:1. The 2013 Revision of Lev.5:1 has been cloaked in silence, read my post VERY CAREFULLY, it is the relationship of the informant policy to the blood policy I am talking about. I enclosed a letter to the US Attorney's office on this relationship. To understand what I am saying is to understand that the death of the pop singer Prince Rogers was criminal! You really got to read what i am saying very carefully.
The article "A Time to Speak When?" was written in 1987. It was a carefully designed deception. It was not about medical confidentiality! The church was fabricating a hunting license to ferret out the 'brand new enemy' the "APOSTATE"!
Matt. 24: 34 imploded in 1975. The years 1980-83 were years of a ship without a rudder. They were unable to come up with a "oracle" replacement for F. Franz. There was no new light. In 1983 there was a conspiracy hatched [very tough to understand, but the article "A Time To Speak When?" provides the key to unlock the conspiracy.
Basically what the church did was shut down the minds! In 1984 the "OBEDIENCE TO THE ORGANIZATION MANTRA" was started. A new enemy was invented the "APOSTATE" he did not exist prior to 1984. Shunning did not exist prior to 1984. But it was necessary to be able to create a means of a Gestapo informant policy in order to control minds to where you take my generation [77] and create a "1984 George Orwell" absolute mind controlled society as exists today. THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THAT 1987 ARTICLE! To hunt down apostates and separate them by shunning!
It was the Son of God who uttered the words of Matt. 24: 48-51, it was "A Time to Speak When?" that made those words a reality.
The pre1975 JW Church was a true church with a message [though a product of fiction] The message imploded in 1975. What was once a church became a true "snare and a racket!!!
The "racket" was the Kingdom Hall loans, which created cash flow on the interest payments. The real racket was that the Hall's were deeded over to the church as being dedicated to Jehovah. To where the church created a world wide real estate empire with the only expense being the paper the contracts were written on.
The "snare" is the internal judicial system and the sanction of shunning.
Please take the time to read the 2013 RNWT revision of Lev.5: 1. Read Barbara Anderson's essay "Flawed Decrees Conceal Criminals". Google commentary on Lev.5:1 go to Bible Hub read to understand what a scholarly workmanship the 2013 Lev. 5:1 revision really is. Then read paragraphs 6, 7 of "A Time to Speak When?'. Then you will start to see a true mystery! To date Barbara Anderson is the only person who I have gotten to see the point. Yet she has never attributed me with the credit.
My efforts are not to toot a horn! my efforts are to get you folks to see the reason that the church cloaked the 2013 revision of Lev.5:1 in secrecy is to understand that if the church becomes transparent as to how they twisted Lev.5: 1 in order to fabricate a Gestapo informant policy designed to ferret out APOSTATES. Then FAIL to reveal that they employ deception to fabricate policy, to families of whom forfeiture of human life is mandatory and enforced by disassociation and SHUNNING! Now you have a legal way and means to deal with the issue of this post!
Just for the moment view me as the smartest guy in the room. Once the light comes on you will see "that there is nothing new under the sun". This is nothing more than failure [1975] "swines ear" turned into a "silk purse".
Again the article "A Time to Speak When?" was written in 1987, a tool to ferret out APOSTATES. the real problem is in 2013 when the church revises Lev.5:1. You understand that is to understand the key to the literal taking down of a church!
Realize I am a mechanic not a wordsmith, I can't hold a candle to the writing skills of many on this site. This is heavy stuff BUT when understood you see just what Jesus was talking about Matt. 24: 48-51.